Curse

Trouveur · Apr 25, 2008, 12:20 AM // 00:20

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Originally Posted by underverse_ninja

Yuk..... the stats on the staff is Horrible.

Actually they are pretty good.

+60 HP is always good, as the 20% recharge time.

That is probably the best stats for a caster staff.

xshadowwolfx · Apr 25, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23

except you don't really need HP all that much in PvE i find %enchant, fast casts/recharge, +energy to be more useful...but yea +60 hp is nice and nothing to complain about.

Plus theres always the customizable golds.

MithranArkanere · Apr 25, 2008, 12:35 AM // 00:35

Well, the +HP is nice for [Grenth's Balance] builds.

Trouveur · Apr 25, 2008, 12:48 AM // 00:48

When you do HM and elite areas you realize HP is far more important than energy (with good energy management you don't need a high energy pool), +20% enchantment is nice for some casters but not all of them (not really useful for a mesmer by example), as for recharge this staff does have 20%.

Casting time is again nice for some casters, but useless for others (mesmer already have fast cast attribute, ritualist mainly use non spell skills, etc...).

I understand that some mods seem better for some casters, but nonetheless this staff have no useless mod.

Um Yeah · Apr 25, 2008, 12:57 AM // 00:57

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Originally Posted by Trouveur

When you do HM and elite areas you realize HP is far more important than energy (with good energy management you don't need a high energy pool), +20% enchantment is nice for some casters but not all of them (not really useful for a mesmer by example), as for recharge this staff does have 20%.

Casting time is again nice for some casters, but useless for others (mesmer already have fast cast attribute, ritualist mainly use non spell skills, etc...).

I understand that some mods seem better for some casters, but nonetheless this staff have no useless mod.

The only staff worth having on any caster is a 40% hct, 20% enchants, and obviously that's only useful if you're using an enchantment. If you aren't using any enchants, then you really don't have any business using a staff anyway...

Alex the Great · Apr 25, 2008, 02:53 AM // 02:53

i don't know about you guys, but i put my vote on the daggers for most beast!

xshadowwolfx · Apr 25, 2008, 02:57 AM // 02:57

I would say sword or hammer, but anyone notice how awesome the focus is? Its a freaking beer mug!

Master Knightfall · Apr 25, 2008, 05:03 AM // 05:03

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Originally Posted by Tyla

I love the look of the new endgame weapons.
Hopefully their mods are a little more..."viable", 20/20 sundering on a sword and -5/20% shield mods make me QQ.

Hehe guess what the mods on those green weapons are? hahah, but, the consolation is you can buy the same skins from an npc merchant there for 10 deldrimor steel ingots + 10 steel ingots + 10k (around 20k depending on prices of deldrimor steel ingots) that is blank but inscribeable. So you can make your own type of weapon out of the skins you like. So, sell your talisman for like 10k and then get an additional 10k and you can get what you want but will still have to mod it.

Mini Masher · Apr 25, 2008, 03:16 PM // 15:16

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Originally Posted by Silly Warrior

Very cool, I'm going to be logging on for this.

Still waiting...

Tyla · Apr 25, 2008, 09:53 PM // 21:53

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Originally Posted by Trouveur

Actually they are pretty good.

+60 HP is always good, as the 20% recharge time.

That is probably the best stats for a caster staff.

Staves should be: Double HCT, 20% HRT (All spells), 20% enchantments.

If you want more health, switch to a shield set.

Lex · Apr 25, 2008, 10:42 PM // 22:42

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Originally Posted by Um Yeah

The only staff worth having on any caster is a 40% hct, 20% enchants, and obviously that's only useful if you're using an enchantment. If you aren't using any enchants, then you really don't have any business using a staff anyway...

It is not the only one, becouse I could say another good example/situation for using a staff: 40(primary attribute)/20(all)/+30hp for casters using spells from different attibutes.

Trouveur · Apr 26, 2008, 12:51 AM // 00:51

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Staves should be: Double HCT, 20% HRT (All spells), 20% enchantments.

If you want more health, switch to a shield set.

And what a mesmer would do with a +20% enchantment or a double HCT ?

HP is more important that double HCT, even for necro or monk.

As for the shield set, last time I shecked it didn't provide +5 energy or 20% HRT.

Why choose between +60 HP and energy/20% HRT, when you can have both ?

Tyla · Apr 26, 2008, 01:08 AM // 01:08

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Originally Posted by Trouveur

And what a mesmer would do with a +20% enchantment or a double HCT ?

HP is more important that double HCT, even for necro or monk.

As for the shield set, last time I shecked it didn't provide +5 energy or 20% HRT.

Why choose between +60 HP and energy/20% HRT, when you can have both ?

There are 4 weaponsets.
And for some casters (Necros, Mesmers, Eles, Rits), 40/40 sets are better, staves are better for enchant based builds, but offer 20%HRT on all spells.

And for Monks, you need both.

And yeah, shield sets provide you with +5E.
Martial weapon (+5E, +30hp), shield (10AL vs *type*, +30hp).

kobey · Apr 26, 2008, 02:43 AM // 02:43

Or craft the gold version if ya really love the skin? It doesn't cost that much more. Sell the talisman for 9-10k, pay another 10k from your own pocket, get the clean staff. Mod it anyway you like for another 10-20k.

There you go, a totally customized staff for ya. You can even make it 33%/12% if you want

StormDragonZ · Apr 26, 2008, 02:52 AM // 02:52

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Originally Posted by kobey

Or craft the gold version if ya really love the skin? It doesn't cost that much more. Sell the talisman for 9-10k, pay another 10k from your own pocket, get the clean staff. Mod it anyway you like for another 10-20k.

There you go, a totally customized staff for ya. You can even make it 33%/12% if you want

I just assumed that as well. If you want the "free" item, you must accept what comes with it. Otherwise, pay up for what you want it to be.

Easy to understand, but rarely noticed.

FoxBat · Apr 26, 2008, 05:05 AM // 05:05

Staves on at least a switch are useful for recharging pve-only spells, which a 40/40 won't do.

Enough "good" pvpers can't be any more bothered with weapon swaps in PvE than your average scrub. And I can't be bothered to change my hero's weapons whether in combat or between missions. Sometimes a generic works-anywhere item has merit.

Lex · Apr 26, 2008, 02:28 PM // 14:28

Now, there are some points of view appeared and I'd like to comment them.

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Originally Posted by Trouveur

And what a mesmer would do with a +20% enchantment or a double HCT ?

About enchantments - I agree.

BUT please do not ignore HCT on weapons for mesmer. You probably think that FC is "godly" but it is not that perfect. Think about such spells as (for example) Migraine, Diversion. These are two very important spells in PvP.

a) Diversion is known for its long cast and it is sooo easy to interupt when you are not lucky nor having HCT on your weapon.

b) Typical Migraine build has "only" 9 in FC - you need to share attributes between FC, Illusion (Migraine), Inspiration (interrupts, energy management), sometimes you even need to put more points in Domination (for more interrupts). With that said - you are casting Migraine in around 1.2 sec time (2 sec origin cast time + 9 in FC) - 1.2 sec Migraine? Still soooo easy to interupt. Even "average good" enemy mesmer/ranger can easily interrupt any important spell with 1+ sec cast time! Trust me

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Originally Posted by Tyla

There are 4 weaponsets.
And for some casters (Necros, Mesmers, Eles, Rits), 40/40 sets are better, staves are better for enchant based builds, but offer 20%HRT on all spells.

As I said before, when you made build with usage of many attributes staff could be better than 40/40 set.

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Originally Posted by FoxBat

Staves on at least a switch are useful for recharging pve-only spells, which a 40/40 won't do.

Enough "good" pvpers can't be any more bothered with weapon swaps in PvE than your average scrub. And I can't be bothered to change my hero's weapons whether in combat or between missions. Sometimes a generic works-anywhere item has merit.

Agreed. Staff as generic weapon could be better for PvE skills and heroes.

Tyla · Apr 26, 2008, 04:26 PM // 16:26

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Originally Posted by Rafal

As I said before, when you made build with usage of many attributes staff could be better than 40/40 set.

And as I said in that post, staves are better for enchantment based builds, if you're using multiple attributes, it should be solved by another 40/40 set.

Although I agree on use for PvE skills, but I don't use them. Horrible things.

Lex · Apr 26, 2008, 04:49 PM // 16:49

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Originally Posted by Tyla

And as I said in that post, staves are better for enchantment based builds, if you're using multiple attributes, it should be solved by another 40/40 set.

Not always

My PvP Migraine build will need 40/40 for Illusion, Inspiration and Domination - 3 sets leaving that way only free one space for (probably most used) high energy set. But what about defensive spear/shield set?

It is simply corrected by use: 40/40 illusion set, high energy set, defensive/shield set and 40/20 illusion staff - higher recharge on interrupts is always a nice addition

thoreau · Apr 26, 2008, 04:56 PM // 16:56

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Originally Posted by Lykan

Monday, April 28 is when the much-anticipated birthday presents begin arriving. Starting at 12:01 AM Pacific, players who have characters turning three years old

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